Discuss how you plan to use the various camera angles in your final project. How might incorporating several of these affect its outcome? Be Specific! (Remember that there are two posts to look at!!!) Thanks
I really don't know yet how to respond to how I will use camera angles in my final project. I guess the most I can say right now is that I will try to use a variety of the techniques that they suggested such as deep focus, trackin, pan. But the article seemed more geared to professional movie making and their equipment. How much of that are we able to do with the small video cameras? I'd like to see some examples and how some of these things can be done with these small cameras that we had on Wednesday. I guess close ups would give your film a more intimate feel as opposed to just a full pan shot. Zooming in or out can be effective. I notice that when Barbara Walters is doing an interview, quite often they will focus on the person's hands. Just trying shots from different perspectives might be interesting. Say filming an actor on stage from behind the scenes in the wings would give a totally different story than filming him from the front as the audience sees it. I guess one just has to look at a scene from a different perspective. Nancy
I agree with Nancy. I too am unsure about how to use camera angles in my final project. I am looking forward to discussing this in class because our class is so chatty...(tongue in cheek). I am willing to scale my thoughts about the final project based on the capabilities of the video camera I might use for the final project.
I also agree with Nancy about the article being "geared to professional movie making". But as my mentor in teaching said, "stress them a little to get them thinking." I am thinking about my final project but I have nothing right now....
I do want to try lots of different camera angles and lighting situations. I look forward to finding out more...Julie M
Great comments, ladies! I know it's hard to start planning something after only having read a few articles on the topic, but relate it to what you know! Nancy, you brought up some great ideas regarding perspective. We will look at some different angles and what feelings those project. See you tomorrow...Peg
I’m still thinking about my final project but one option I had uses some video that I already have. The video is panned out and was intended to include everyone as a group shot so it wasn’t the best camera work. I’m wondering if it will still be ok since the group is an important part of the story. I’m thinking I might be able to do some close ups and other focuses to vary it up a bit. Still thinking… Sue
I am thinking of doing a year in review for my final project of all my students art work. This would be great to use at my end of year art show and beginning of the year open house. All of the affects in the article deal with angling the camera for film not still photography and I would be using a lot of still shots, I think??? Some of the affects I could incorporate into the outcome of my photos would be the lighting, and framing. I would use my primary source of lighting, sunlight. Often your best source of light natural, when taking photos. If needed I would have to incorporate some key light on the subject. Framing rules are different in film than they are photos. The top ten Kodak rules seem to make more sense esthetically. In film the filmmaker places the subject in the center and a little forward. The filmmaker does not follow the rule of thirds. Not sure if I can utilize camera angles in my final project or the use of film kelly
I agree with Kelly, film seems to not follow the same rules as photography. Maybe because film is using a moving subject, and it is harder for the viewer to focus on it if it is off-center? Or, in film there are other elements to consider (lighting, soundtrack, focus on main subject). In photography, there is more story to tell with just the image, time to look and see all the different elements going on in foreground and background, more time for the eye to analyze and see the story the photographer is trying to tell.
With regards to my final project, I have a story I might want to tell, but that may change! I want to video some of my students to help tell the story, so I will want to be at their level (down low!) with the camera. I think you need to be on your subject's level to be most effective. I think being close up is important too, why show your subject 10 feet away with all the background when it is not even part of the story? No one needs to see the top of someone's head either. You can't crop and play with video to make it better as much as you can do with still photography, so you need to get it right the first time. It might be fun to let some kids do the video and see things from their perspective, unless it turns into Blair Witch blur. That's not fun.
The cinematography article had the exact same picture of Orson Wells twice...why? Were they trying to tell us something? I kept thinking about that. Doesn't an article about cinematography have at least ONE more picture to offer? That was annoying.
The Lasica article was great, it had wonderful tips and I liked that they broke things down into steps. It was basic, but reflected quite a bit of what we have already discussed in class, so it strengthened what I already knew.
I have two ideas for my final project. One involves an interview. A medium shot of the person would be best when focused on the person speaking. Using a tracking/traveling shot from the person’s face to perhaps a window to reveal him remembering might be an interesting choice. Using a close-up shot on the person’s hands as a transition could reflect the passing of time. A soft focus could also be used for a memory or reenactment. Even with an interview, I probably wouldn’t want to spend too much time just videotaping the interviewee; that would lose the audience.
My other idea involves my children (I’m sure you’re surprised about that ). I would want to use a close-up technique in some cases to hide the distracting (messy!) background, but a long shot would be needed in order to show action. I don’t think I would want to use too much panning or tracking because there would be enough movement from the children. Too much movement could make the viewer dizzy! Overall, I think it is important to use a variety of techniques to keep the viewer interested.
I am in the process of planning my final project and I want to use a variety of camera angles that will give a variety of feelings and moods. The angle of the picture can change the whole mood of what is trying to be portrayed. A good example of showing the rule of thirds and camera angles can be seen in my Adoration video. One picture showed my nephew Kal looking up at his Dad. If I would have been on the same level as him the whole feeling would have been lost. In the scene showing Miso and I in St. Sava Church getting married that pans out to show the whole church full gives a feeling of how large of a commitment this is. Along with a strong camera angle is it important to choose transitions that will compliment these angles. In my first story on the 4th of July, I chose a transition and slide affect that made the picture look like it was really a firework going off.
If I do choose the topic that I am playing around in my mind for my final project I will probably start out using pictures and angles that show a distance and as the story grows the distance becomes smaller and the angles will change. One may show the person in the picture from above and the other from a distance. A specific idea I have is incorporating a world map and having one part of the globe in a distance with a close-up of one of the main characters.
Along with the camera angles, it is important to remember the use of color, contrast and distance. Each piece will create a beautiful completed puzzle that tells the specific story that the creator has in mind. Remember this is art and not everyone has to agree with what has been created – they just have to appreciate the attempt and the techniques used.
I think I have narrowed down my final project. I want to create more of a dramatic feel. I want to use some contrasting camera angles from one shot to another not only with the videos but also with the still pictures. I want to keep the audience connected by keeping them interested from one frame to the next. If the video lends itself to a tracking shot I would like to try to effectively use this technique in my final project. Being aware of the voice and music is also going to be a challenge to find a balance with the camera angles so one or the other is not too overpowering.
At this point I am not sure how this will help me with my final project. SThe things listed I am already aware of and use when I can. If I didn't know these things already, I believe the information on lighting would have been the most informational to me. I think most people already do some type of angling just by using the buttons on their camers and others froma in one way or another to achieve a look, but lighting is seldom worked on. I believe lighting is seldom workded on because people use the lighting they have. When taking the average picture, one uses the light they have or use the flash and that's it. Paulette
I really don't know yet how to respond to how I will use camera angles in my final project. I guess the most I can say right now is that I will try to use a variety of the techniques that they suggested such as deep focus, trackin, pan. But the article seemed more geared to professional movie making and their equipment. How much of that are we able to do with the small video cameras? I'd like to see some examples and how some of these things can be done with these small cameras that we had on Wednesday. I guess close ups would give your film a more intimate feel as opposed to just a full pan shot. Zooming in or out can be effective. I notice that when Barbara Walters is doing an interview, quite often they will focus on the person's hands. Just trying shots from different perspectives might be interesting. Say filming an actor on stage from behind the scenes in the wings would give a totally different story than filming him from the front as the audience sees it. I guess one just has to look at a scene from a different perspective.
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I agree with Nancy. I too am unsure about how to use camera angles in my final project. I am looking forward to discussing this in class because our class is so chatty...(tongue in cheek). I am willing to scale my thoughts about the final project based on the capabilities of the video camera I might use for the final project.
ReplyDeleteI also agree with Nancy about the article being "geared to professional movie making". But as my mentor in teaching said, "stress them a little to get them thinking." I am thinking about my final project but I have nothing right now....
I do want to try lots of different camera angles and lighting situations. I look forward to finding out more...Julie M
Great comments, ladies! I know it's hard to start planning something after only having read a few articles on the topic, but relate it to what you know! Nancy, you brought up some great ideas regarding perspective. We will look at some different angles and what feelings those project. See you tomorrow...Peg
ReplyDeleteI’m still thinking about my final project but one option I had uses some video that I already have. The video is panned out and was intended to include everyone as a group shot so it wasn’t the best camera work. I’m wondering if it will still be ok since the group is an important part of the story. I’m thinking I might be able to do some close ups and other focuses to vary it up a bit. Still thinking…
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I am thinking of doing a year in review for my final project of all my students art work. This would be great to use at my end of year art show and beginning of the year open house. All of the affects in the article deal with angling the camera for film not still photography and I would be using a lot of still shots, I think??? Some of the affects I could incorporate into the outcome of my photos would be the lighting, and framing. I would use my primary source of lighting, sunlight. Often your best source of light natural, when taking photos. If needed I would have to incorporate some key light on the subject. Framing rules are different in film than they are photos. The top ten Kodak rules seem to make more sense esthetically. In film the filmmaker places the subject in the center and a little forward. The filmmaker does not follow the rule of thirds. Not sure if I can utilize camera angles in my final project or the use of film kelly
ReplyDeleteI agree with Kelly, film seems to not follow the same rules as photography. Maybe because film is using a moving subject, and it is harder for the viewer to focus on it if it is off-center? Or, in film there are other elements to consider (lighting, soundtrack, focus on main subject). In photography, there is more story to tell with just the image, time to look and see all the different elements going on in foreground and background, more time for the eye to analyze and see the story the photographer is trying to tell.
ReplyDeleteWith regards to my final project, I have a story I might want to tell, but that may change! I want to video some of my students to help tell the story, so I will want to be at their level (down low!) with the camera. I think you need to be on your subject's level to be most effective. I think being close up is important too, why show your subject 10 feet away with all the background when it is not even part of the story? No one needs to see the top of someone's head either. You can't crop and play with video to make it better as much as you can do with still photography, so you need to get it right the first time. It might be fun to let some kids do the video and see things from their perspective, unless it turns into Blair Witch blur. That's not fun.
The cinematography article had the exact same picture of Orson Wells twice...why? Were they trying to tell us something? I kept thinking about that. Doesn't an article about cinematography have at least ONE more picture to offer? That was annoying.
The Lasica article was great, it had wonderful tips and I liked that they broke things down into steps. It was basic, but reflected quite a bit of what we have already discussed in class, so it strengthened what I already knew.
Guess I didn't really answer your question.
I have two ideas for my final project. One involves an interview. A medium shot of the person would be best when focused on the person speaking. Using a tracking/traveling shot from the person’s face to perhaps a window to reveal him remembering might be an interesting choice. Using a close-up shot on the person’s hands as a transition could reflect the passing of time. A soft focus could also be used for a memory or reenactment. Even with an interview, I probably wouldn’t want to spend too much time just videotaping the interviewee; that would lose the audience.
ReplyDeleteMy other idea involves my children (I’m sure you’re surprised about that ). I would want to use a close-up technique in some cases to hide the distracting (messy!) background, but a long shot would be needed in order to show action. I don’t think I would want to use too much panning or tracking because there would be enough movement from the children. Too much movement could make the viewer dizzy! Overall, I think it is important to use a variety of techniques to keep the viewer interested.
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I am in the process of planning my final project and I want to use a variety of camera angles that will give a variety of feelings and moods. The angle of the picture can change the whole mood of what is trying to be portrayed. A good example of showing the rule of thirds and camera angles can be seen in my Adoration video. One picture showed my nephew Kal looking up at his Dad. If I would have been on the same level as him the whole feeling would have been lost. In the scene showing Miso and I in St. Sava Church getting married that pans out to show the whole church full gives a feeling of how large of a commitment this is. Along with a strong camera angle is it important to choose transitions that will compliment these angles. In my first story on the 4th of July, I chose a transition and slide affect that made the picture look like it was really a firework going off.
ReplyDeleteIf I do choose the topic that I am playing around in my mind for my final project I will probably start out using pictures and angles that show a distance and as the story grows the distance becomes smaller and the angles will change. One may show the person in the picture from above and the other from a distance. A specific idea I have is incorporating a world map and having one part of the globe in a distance with a close-up of one of the main characters.
Along with the camera angles, it is important to remember the use of color, contrast and distance. Each piece will create a beautiful completed puzzle that tells the specific story that the creator has in mind. Remember this is art and not everyone has to agree with what has been created – they just have to appreciate the attempt and the techniques used.
I think I have narrowed down my final project. I want to create more of a dramatic feel. I want to use some contrasting camera angles from one shot to another not only with the videos but also with the still pictures. I want to keep the audience connected by keeping them interested from one frame to the next. If the video lends itself to a tracking shot I would like to try to effectively use this technique in my final project. Being aware of the voice and music is also going to be a challenge to find a balance with the camera angles so one or the other is not too overpowering.
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At this point I am not sure how this will help me with my final project. SThe things listed I am already aware of and use when I can. If I didn't know these things already, I believe the information on lighting would have been the most informational to me. I think most people already do some type of angling just by using the buttons on their camers and others froma in one way or another to achieve a look, but lighting is seldom worked on. I believe lighting is seldom workded on because people use the lighting they have. When taking the average picture, one uses the light they have or use the flash and that's it.
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